Communities vs. Cliques, Scenes & Cults

by Brett Borders on August 10, 2009

Community is one of the most heavily used buzzwords in social media. The traditional dictionary lists multiple definitions… and colloquially it can mean very different things to different people. Groups that some people call an “amazing community” strike me as more of a clique or even a cult. Here’s my own personal taxonomy of terms for social groups:

Characteristics of a Community

A community is a relatively open group, with members who (try to) support each other.

A community is a group of people with a common location or interests, often with a shared sense of ownership. They might live in the same geographical area, hang out in the same (online) neighborhoods, or share a common profession or interest. A community is usually a relatively open group that exists to support or help all the members. If there’s no infrastructure or expression of collaboration / philanthropy – like a monthly meeting or an online forum – it’s not a bona fide “community.” At least not in my book.

The Wordpress community is a group of bloggers and programmers who collaborate to create code, tools, documentation and technical support for everyone else to use. The SEO and social media communities are comprised of people in the same professions… who publish blogs and plan events to connect and share their knowledge. Flickr is an online community of people who love photography & images. They share their pictures freely, encourage others to do the same, and they welcome new photographers… the more, the better.

  • Membership criteria: Inclusive. Open to most with shared common interests.
  • Barriers to Entry: Minimal. Only those members who prove to crazy / dangerous / offensive are shunned.
  • Internal Politics: Tries to keep a semblance of order, keep things alive and constructive.
  • Agenda: To make the world better for all the people in a certain online space.

Characteristics of a Clique

A clique is a smaller group people who have similar interests or personalities, who spend time together but who do not readily allow others to join them.

Two cliques face off in “West Side Story.”

A private company or an agency is a clique. They carefully screen all new members and only allow those with the most profitable or desirable characteristic to join them. They frequently deny
membership on very subjective matters like physical appearance, personality or politics (“who you know”). A closed private beta is a clique. So is an invite-only afterparty at a conference, or a “cool table” where the high-status people sit. Same with a circle of diggers who vote on each others stories, or tweeps who only RT their friends’ stuff.

  • Membership criteria: Exclusive. Subjective. Open only to those who “click” with the existing members, or who can offer up something they want.
  • Barriers to Entry: Many unspoken criteria serve to block undesired members from joining.
  • Internal Politics: Oligarachy of the alpha (fe)males / most powerful members.
  • Agenda: To enrich or satisfy the founders. To maintain an elite, high-quality, ego-gratifying environment.

Characteristics of a Scene

Unacquainted surfers competing for waves are more of “scene,” than a community.

A scene is a group of people who actively share a common interest or activity. A scene is usually less organized (and sometimes more competitive) than a community, and it’s larger than a clique. There’s a 419 e-mail fraud scene in Nigeria. There’s an large electronic music scene in Tokyo (and virtually none in Saudi Arabia). There’s a “technology scene” here in Boulder, CO – consisting of several overlapping open communities (public meetups, events), closed cliques & private organizations.

  • Membership criteria: Inclusive. Anyone who participates is “part of the scene.”
  • Barriers to Entry: Few.
  • Internal Politics: Sometimes competitive. Most skilled / accomplished / well-connected people are most respected.
  • Agenda: For each member to thrive in their own way.

Characteristics of a Cult

A religious cult is a system of religious veneration and devotion to a particular person or object. I define an online “cult” as a group of people who have one infallible leader, cause or over-riding belief. They tend to use social media soley to promote their one particular cause or agenda.

Ron Paul voters formed a social media cult / mafia in the 2008 presidential election.

MLMers on Twitter are a kind of a cult, who all share the aggravating fantasy that they can get rich if they spam their cookie-cutter message out to enough people. Liberal anti-Semites are a cult; they share a common, intense hatred for Israel and use social media almost exclusively to criticize the country and promote negative propaganda about it. The Ron Paul supporters, who registered for Digg and Reddit en masse to vote up pro-Ron Paul stories in the 2008 election, are an online “cult” with a human leader / savior.

  • Membership criteria: Complete ideological devotion and/or financial commitment required.
  • Barriers to Entry: Firmly closed to skeptics, heretics, non-believers.
  • Internal Politics:Authoritarian mandates handed down by the guru, leader or “inner circle.”
  • Agenda: To aggressively promote one particular ideology, business or political interest.

What Is Your Definition of Community?

Is a community really different than a scene or a clique – or is that just splitting hairs? I’m interested in your opinions (especially if you disagree with anything I wrote) and insights – so please freely let ‘em rip.

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  • Hi Brett,
    I remember reading this when it was published in my feed. Sure is refreshing to re-read it again now. Personally, I didn't look deep into this question and always group everyone in general terms like community or network. Sure is educational to have them all separated, properly in order.I think cliques can gradually evolve from communities or scenes; cults are quite distinctive and at times hard to accept by all. Could it be said, a bit more controversial due to particular beliefs? Maybe so.


    @wchingya
    Social/Blogging Tracker
  • Wchingya,

    I wrote this post because people use the word "community" a lot - too much for my liking. I realized that community is not the best way to describe some types of groups.
  • It's interesting distinctions you make between the different types of groups. I do think community is different than a clique or scene - for me the question lies around communities where the goal seems to be obvious but people just don't get their acts together to do something. So are communities only communities when they're also realizing common and explicit actions towards achieving their common belief? Or can it be more subtle than that?
  • Araz,

    Some communities suck. No doubt about it - they have a stated purpose but they are totally ineffective and mired in politics.

    I would say the factors that define community for me are a spirit of inclusion of all those with the same goals and interests. Also some needs kind of infrasctuctue for communication or collaboration.

    A dissociated group of programmers in the Tuscon, Arizona, area who never talk to each other and don't even know who the others are - would not be a community in my definition.

    But if there were a monthly meeting or mailing list for people to connect / communicate / enrich themselves/ help others out - and the people TRIED to use it.. even if they were ineffective. .. I would say it was a weak community.

    If they used it very effectively to help each other improve skills, find jobs, have fun... then I'd say it would be a strong community.
  • Illustrative set of definitions. Would you say they are all different kinds of groups? Would they be opposed to or complementary to a network?
  • Bdieu,

    I think communities, cliques, cults and scenes are all types groups.

    I think a "network" isn't really a group.. it's a diverse arrayem> of people whom you know from all difference places. In my network,
    I have people from Israel, Japan, Florida,
    Borneo, Sri Lankan, Oregon and Colorado. Most of the people in my
    network have never met one another, nor are aware that most of the
    others exist... so I would say my network
    is not a (sociological) group.
  • Hi, I'd love to hear more about how you see these parts functioning together.

    how a clique functions with a community for example.
    I can see a clique within a scene, perhaps as in your example, providing for the general benefit, as well as satisfying personal goals.

    Cults, of course can help build communities but HUGE friction ensues if the community does not turn CULT.

    So the pressure point I see is how to look at how a clique can work well within a community, without proving a sense of broken trust down the road.
    (kinda same question how our politicians work within our society perhaps :-)

    I find the issue of trust, direction, and belief of great interest in that specific dynamic.
    cheers.
    vince.
  • Vince,

    I think cliques can be a healthy, functional part of a community -
    because some roles and functions get messed up by "too many cooks in
    the kitchen" and might be better
    served by a small, exclusive, focused group.

    Communities are for situations where it's better to bring everyone
    in, cliques help when it's necessary to keeping some people out,
    scenes allow people to comfortably co-exist and do their own things
    without
    having the constant pressure of having to exclude or include everyone.
  • So, let's see if is is said right...


    Cliques would function as the guiding element of communities in order to faciliate scenes.
    (i.e. providing the control and guidance to allow a free-flowing activity to develop as a "scene" within a wider community" .

    I very much like the idea of a "scene" as it allows for diverse reasons for participation, and makes communities more inclusive. I really like that idea.
    cheers
  • Great post! I've often thought how liberally we apply the word community to our tech scene in Boulder when I think there are a lot of existing cliques within. The phrase "but who do not readily allow others to join them" makes pause to consider how open I've been lately to new contacts.
  • Elaine,

    I would consider the greater Boulder technology entity to be a "scene" more than a community. A number of different cliques pursuing their own goals and agendas, more than a central "communal" feel.

    Community, to me, applies to entities that have more of that "we want to get everyone involved" kind of vibe. I am a member of a Boulder vegetarian group that has monthly potlucks and they are just beyond happy to have anyone half interested show up - vegetarian or not (I'm not totally vegetarian, nobody cares or judges) - and they have an e-mail list where people make suggestions, answer questions and support each other. It has a true "community" feel, to me.

    Not that communities are "all good" and cliques are "all bad" - they just have very different dynamics and are better for different things. (i.e., if you want to run a profitable small company, it had better be a good clique).

    I agree, it's easy to get under a lot of pressure / in a social comfort zone and lose the elasticity to deal with new people - but I find that when a group gets too rigid or self-absorbed.. they can miss out on a lot of amazing people and opportunities for collaboration and success.


  • I like how you have made a distinction between community, cliques, scenes and cults. I do however, see a connection that ties them all together even as they have differences. With each of them there is all something in common. Whether it's a belief, an act, a person or interest they're part of that general group because of the common ________.

    Community is a loose word I think. Especially in the online space. I think of community less around a geographical location and more about connectedness, sharing, interest and like you said usually relatively open.

    Good thoughts!
  • Grace,

    I agree they are all masses of socially acquainted human beings - and there is a thread that ties them together. But there were these "the little differences" I started to notice and piece together in my own mind... about how groups behave and the political structure.

    When I was throwing electronic music events in Oregon, there was a genuine community aspect where we tried to involve as many people as possible and it was very open and democratic. But my DJ friends and I were a clique and were were slightly territorial (as almost every DJ crew is). If we didn't like someone's style or vibe or attitude, we would block them from getting anywhere near the decks - trying to keep the event flowing smoothly (for the greater community) and also keep our own spots safe, because we enjoyed where we were and didn't really want to give our seat to someone else, unless we really liked them.

    Those particularly kind of politics are what make me think "clique" !

    And the "we need to get everyone involved in this who might be able to help in any way" philosophy what makes me think "community!"

    Not that one is bad, and one is good.. it's just a different kind of group dynamic - good for different purposes.
  • Some good perspective here Brett. A good example of a clique social media platform is Reddit. The entire platform is manipulated by a handful of users who are allowed to play god with submissions and ban other users. They don't work for nor do they have to answer to Reddit or users as to why a submission was pulled or why a user was banned from their sub Reddit. And new users are generally trolled to no end and banned if they have any success.
  • Gerald,

    I agree, Reddit is very cliquish and quite unsavory sometimes. It used to be a really, really fun "community" site filled with a diverse array of intelligent content - but it started to attract a different - more reactionary / political crowd in spring of 2007.
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